Guided course · Lesson 20 of 88 · Nature, knowledge and the good life in Greece and Rome

An examined life in the city

In this lesson 2 aims
  • Reconstruct a challenge to Euthyphro’s confident account of piety
  • Explain why examining a belief can matter for how we treat other people

A question outside the court

Euthyphro is certain that he is doing the right thing. In Plato’s dialogue, he has come to prosecute his own father over a laborer’s death. The laborer had killed a household slave, and Euthyphro’s father bound him and left him in a ditch while he sought advice; the laborer died before the advice arrived. The family condemns the prosecution, but Euthyphro insists that justice matters whoever the accused may be. [1]

At the court of the King Archon, an Athenian official concerned with religious matters and homicide, Euthyphro meets Socrates, who faces an accusation involving impiety. Piety here means right conduct toward the gods, and it carries consequences for duties to family and city. Euthyphro claims to know what piety requires, and Socrates asks him to explain. The meaning of the word matters because Euthyphro is acting on it against his own father.

Which Socrates are we hearing?

Socrates was tried and executed in Athens in 399 BCE, and he left no philosophical writings. What survives are differing portraits by Plato, the writer Xenophon and the comic playwright Aristophanes, and specialists call the difficulty of reconstructing his views from them the Socratic problem. Debra Nails and S. Sara Monoson explain why even plausible details in Plato cannot guarantee that his characters repeat the historical speakers’ views. [3]

So what we will examine is Plato’s portrayal. His Apology presents Socrates defending himself against the charges of corrupting the young and of failing to acknowledge the city’s gods while introducing new divine activities; here apology means a defense. The work is a crafted account, not a verified trial transcript, and the Euthyphro likewise stages a conversation that we can’t assume happened exactly as written. [2] [3]

An example is not yet an explanation

Asked what piety is, Euthyphro points to what he is doing: prosecuting a wrongdoer, even one’s own father. Socrates wants something more general. What makes this action, and every other pious action, pious? An example may help us recognize a quality without explaining what it is. [1]

This is a conceptual question, a question about what piety means, and it bears on a normative question about what someone ought to do. If Euthyphro’s certainty is to guide a prosecution, he needs a reason for thinking that his action meets the standard he invokes. Socrates’s demand is itself open to discussion, though: must someone be able to define a virtue before acting well?

Testing an answer against other beliefs

Euthyphro next says that what the gods love is pious and what they hate is impious. But he also accepts that the gods disagree about justice and love different things. The same action could then be loved by one god and hated by another, which on his account would make it both pious and impious, although he has agreed that these are opposites. His beliefs do not fit together. [1]

This kind of questioning is often called an elenchus: an examination that tests a claim against other beliefs the person accepts, which then serve as the argument’s premises, its starting claims. The conflict shows that Euthyphro cannot keep all these beliefs as they stand. It does not tell him which one to give up, nor does it give Socrates a complete account of piety. Scholars disagree about how much the method can establish. [4]

What does approval explain?

Euthyphro repairs his answer: the pious is what all the gods love. That avoids the first objection, since no action could be both loved and hated by all the gods. Socrates now asks a sharper question. Do the gods love the pious because it is pious, or does their loving it make it pious? [1]

The difference lies in the direction of explanation. Euthyphro agrees that the gods love a pious action because it is pious, so the action’s character explains their response. But an action is god-loved simply because the gods love it: here their response is what gives it the description. To say that an action is loved, then, leaves open what makes it worthy of that love.

Socrates concludes that Euthyphro has described how the gods respond to pious actions without explaining what makes those actions pious. Even if the same actions are both pious and loved by all the gods, the two descriptions need not explain them in the same way. The argument depends on Euthyphro’s agreement about why the gods love what they love, so someone who rejects that agreement owes a different account. It tests this account of piety; it does not establish that there are no gods. After further attempts, the dialogue ends without an agreed definition. [1]

Why submit to examination?

In the Apology, Socrates describes questioning people with a reputation for wisdom. The craftsmen really do know things he does not, but some of them take their skill as authority on other, greater matters. The advantage he claims is modest: he does not mistake his ignorance for knowledge. Recognizing a limit to what one knows is different from denying that anyone knows anything. [2]

He urges Athenians to care for their souls—their character and capacity to live well—before wealth and reputation. If our choices shape who we become, mistaken priorities can damage a life that looks successful. He presents this examination as a service commanded by the god and compares himself to a gadfly waking a sluggish horse. He also reports refusing an unjust order under the oligarchy, a government by a small ruling group: examination, on this account, has to reach conduct, including conduct under pressure. [2]

At 38a, Socrates treats examination as indispensable to a life worth living. We can question so demanding a claim without turning it into a judgment on other people’s worth; its practical challenge is to bring our own reasons and priorities into view. His defense also shows why questioning can hurt. Exposing someone’s confusion may humiliate them, and winning an argument does not ensure that either side learns to live better.

Try the distinction

Imagine a council member who says that a relief grant is fair because the council approved it, and who also says that the council approved it because it fairly met the recipient’s need. Explain the difference between these two reasons. Then propose a question that would help examine the decision rather than merely embarrass the speaker.

Read a possible response

The two reasons run in opposite directions: the first makes approval the source of fairness, while the second makes fairness the reason for approval. If each is offered as the whole explanation, they send us in a circle, because the council’s vote explains why the grant is officially approved but not why it is fair. A better question asks what needs the grant meets and whether equally needy applicants were treated alike. The example carries a distinction from the dialogue into a different setting without equating a council with Greek gods. Finding an inadequate reason does not establish that the grant was unfair. We still need to examine the decision and its other possible justifications.

Carry this forward

Ask what a person’s confidence rests on, what their other beliefs require and what could change their answer, and include your own answers in the examination. Knowledge, appearance and education takes up a further question in Plato’s Republic: how does reaching a correct answer differ from understanding why it is correct?

Sources and limits

[1] Plato, Euthyphro, translated by C. D. C. Reeve, in Readings in Ancient Greek Philosophy: From Thales to Aristotle, edited by S. Marc Cohen, Patricia Curd and C. D. C. Reeve, fifth edition, Hackett, 2016; ebook ISBN 9781624665943, for the conversation the lesson follows. The complete supplied dialogue, 2a–16a, pp. 80–90, was read, with notes 1–17. The lesson focuses on these passages:

  • The encounter and the prosecution: 2a–5a.
  • Example and definition: 5d–6e.
  • Conflicting divine judgments: 7a–8b.
  • Unanimous love and explanation: 9d–11b.
  • The unfinished inquiry: 15c–16a.

The numbers and letters, such as 10a, are standard Stephanus locators, which let readers find a passage across editions; they are not course or chapter numbers. The ebook’s numbered braces mark print pages. Notes 3 and 9–10 explain the official’s role and the family and religious setting of the prosecution.

[2] Plato, Apology, translated by Reeve in the same anthology, for Socrates’s defense of his way of life. The complete supplied work, 17a–42a, pp. 90–106, was read, with notes 1–36. The principal passages are:

  • The examination of reputed wisdom: 20c–23c, pp. 92–94.
  • The charge: 24b–c, p. 95.
  • Care of the soul and the gadfly: 29d–31b, pp. 98–99.
  • Conduct under democratic and oligarchic rule: 32a–e, p. 100.
  • The examined life: 37e–38a, pp. 103–104.

What Socrates says here about his own actions remains a report within Plato’s version of his defense. The anthology credits both translations to Reeve, copyright 2002, reprinted from his A Plato Reader (2012). The 2016 anthology is the edition consulted: its title, copyright, contents and acknowledgments were checked directly, but the entire anthology was not read.

[3] Debra Nails and S. Sara Monoson, “Socrates”, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, revised 26 May 2022, for the conflicting sources and the approaches scholars take to them. The opening and §2, including §§2.1–2.3, were read. These cautions qualify the anthology introduction’s simplified separation of Socratic and Platonic views. Neither Xenophon nor Aristophanes was read directly for this lesson, and no independent reconstruction of the trial was undertaken.

[4] Paul Woodruff, “Plato’s Shorter Ethical Works”, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, revised 18 December 2022, for specialist discussion of the method’s limits. The opening and selected sections were read, especially §2 on the elenchus, §11 on the Apology and §13 on the Euthyphro; neither the whole entry nor the works in its bibliography were read.

The council case and its response are original teaching material. Both dialogues were read in one identified English translation. No Greek collation, independent specialist or learner review, or learner timing was performed, and the historical and interpretive questions the lesson raises remain open.

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